in·de·fen·si·ble adjective \-ˈfen(t)-sə-bəl\ : not able to be thought of as good or acceptable : not able to be kept safe from damage or harm Full Definition of INDEFENSIBLE 1 a : incapable of being maintained as right or valid : untenable b : incapable of being justified or excused : inexcusableThe question is whterh it can't honestly be defended (ef 1) or if attempting to defend it is bad rhetorical strategy because people won't be convinced. He meant the second and I read the first. His "impossible to defend" meant "indefensible in the militray sense" not "unarguably false". Twitter restricts the text to 140 characters and the context to what shows up clicking "view converstation" and searching terms beginning with @ and #. SEcond engagement. I debate with Brad about the meaning of "you" J. Bradford DeLong @delong 30 Oct .@robertwaldmann then Obama should have said: “If U and Ur insurance company wish to keep your current plan, you can” shouldn’t he? @afrakt What do you mean by "U" White man ? I go to join my coparties. robertwaldmann @robertwaldmann 30 Oct @delong @afrakt It depends on what the definition of "you" is. In general when we say a contract is allowed by law = "if both parties agree" Expand robertwaldmann @robertwaldmann 30 Oct @afrakt @delong The statement "no one will take thy plan from thee" would be false. Now THIS is a tortured defence To go on with my "enhanced" tweeting techniques. Is it true that you can marry whichever adult you please in California ? No you can only marry people who are willing to say "I do" (plus neither can be married at the time). It goes without saying that a fixed term contract can't be unilateraly extended by one party against the will of the other. President Obama, will I be able to play the piano after the operation ?2 : incapable of being protected against physical attack
Friday, November 01, 2013
Frakt like the Marcellus Shale
I missunderstood a tweet by Austin Frakt
I read "impossible to defend" as "indefensible" using its first dictionary definition when he wrote it thinking of the second.
More embarrassingly, I persistently remembered it as "indefensible" not as "impossible to defend" until I just checked.
The Xchange
Austin Frakt @afrakt 30 Oct
I maintain, the admin's line on this is impossible to defend. http://www.forbes.com/sites/theapothecary/2013/10/30/no-david-axelrod-the-vast-majority-of-people-in-this-country-are-not-keeping-their-plan/ …
(note I red this as "is indefensible" and so on down a slippery slope to special pleading.
robertwaldmann @robertwaldmann 30 Oct
@afrakt @delong In fact defensible. Obama used the present tense re plans which existed then & were grandfathered.
robertwaldmann @robertwaldmann 30 Oct
@afrakt @delong "indefensible" does not mean that the defence will convince people who ignore rules of grammar
Austin Frakt @afrakt 30 Oct
@robertwaldmann @delong Seems like a judgement call. I've made mine. Good luck! (I still support the law.)
robertwaldmann @robertwaldmann 30 Oct
@afrakt @delong I too still support the law. Sorry for my tone.@robertwaldmann @delong Appreciated. Ending well is all it takes! Let's move on. There are better things to discuss.
OK I call it a total victory for Frkt who gets extra cool points
@robertwaldmann @delong Appreciated. Ending well is all it takes! Let's move on. There are better things to discuss.
The questiona are 1) what administration position (it depends when Obama sait it which depends on what statement "if you like your plan you can keep it" is 100% true. Later similar statements were false as things had changed becaues post March 23 2010 plans were not grandfathered. I now know that Obama kept saying things whcih had ceaed to be true so he earmned at least 3 of his 4 pinocchios (the fourth is a soft inherently subjective Inochio made of scoffed pine). Time to admit he said something false and move on except for the part about admitting he said something wrong (re Roy Hattersley's rule about holes -- "When you ar in a hole stop digging". He seems to have, more or less, as well as could be hoped, pulled it off which is why he is President.
Frakt meant c"can't be defended" as in "indefensible as the word is used as a term of art in military strategy" as in "time for a strategic withdrawal" as in "Quote Roy Hattersley who never got to numbr 10 Downing street but sure knew what not to do when in holes".
I read it can't be deferended" as "indefensible" (reading comprehension problem) as in "not arguably true" or "no one can honestly and in good concience claim it might reasonably be interepreted so that it is true".
Let's ask the Google which sends us to Merriam and Webster
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